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Here we cut through the noise in cybersecurity.

This isn’t a show about perfect frameworks or polished slide decks. It’s a place for honest conversations about security strategy, governance, and risk as they actually exist inside real organizations - messy, evolving, and deeply tied to how the business runs.

Each episode explores what it really takes to build, operate, and sustain security programs that don’t get ignored, overcomplicated, or treated as a once-a-year exercise. We focus on clarity, ownership, and practical decision-making - especially for people early in their security careers or stepping into leadership for the first time.

Seiso works with mid-sized, regulated organizations that need cybersecurity to function day-to-day - not just during audits or incidents.

Our customers bring us in early, at the leadership level, because security decisions shape how the business grows, sells, and operates. We’re trusted as long-term operating partners, helping teams run, stabilize, and mature security programs over time.

That practitioner-driven, real-world experience is what shapes every conversation on Side-Up.

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In this episode, Joe Wynn and Taylor Lee join Lauren to discuss How to Win Friends and Influence People and Crucial Conversations books. They discuss how to correctly communication phishing attacks, how to listen with empathy and how to lead by example.

Listen to this episode to learn how to become a human firewall.

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